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Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 2, 1 March–6 May 1845

1 March 1845 • Saturday, continued Page 1 4 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 32 11 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 77 18 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 131 22 March 1845 • Saturday Page 181 25 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 231 5 April 1845 • Saturday Page 266 11 April 1845 • Friday Page 267 15 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 327 22 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 349 29 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 355 6 May 1845 • Tuesday Page 361

Source Note

See source note under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

Historical Introduction

See historical introduction under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

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he was last year. He can sustain himself and intends to do it.
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said his feelings were that the brethren go till they can find a suitable place for a location and when they have done that let them immediately send word back. His mind would be for them to go to the Camanche Indians
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The Comanche lived throughout much of northwestern Texas and eastern portions of the Mexican territory of New Mexico. They dominated the entire region—culturally, politically, and economically—and frequently sent raiding parties to the Gulf Coast in Texas and deep into central Mexico. Because of these raids, Americans tended to view the Comanche “as the great scourges of the Mexican north.” (See Hämäläinen, Comanche Empire, chap. 5; and DeLay, War of a Thousand Deserts, 237.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Hämäläinen, Pekka. The Comanche Empire. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2008.

DeLay, Brian. War of a Thousand Deserts: Indian Raids and the U.S.–Mexican War. Dallas: William P. Clements Center for Southwest Studies, Southern Methodist University; New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2008.

and negotiate with them and if we can get their consent we will go and tarry among them for a season. His feelings are that our time is short among the gentiles, and the judgment of God will soon come on them like whirlwind. He dont care about preaching to the gentiles any longer.
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A few days later Brigham Young repeated similar comments at a public meeting in Nauvoo. “I will scarcely send a man out to preach,” he announced. “If the world wants preachers, let them come here, & if they do not want the Gospel, let them clean Carthage Jail.” (Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 16 Mar. 1845.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

Some of the brethren say they can convert many of the gentiles and baptise them, but what are they good for when we get them. They are not bold enough to come out in defence [p. [81]]
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Footnotes

  1. [126]

    The Comanche lived throughout much of northwestern Texas and eastern portions of the Mexican territory of New Mexico. They dominated the entire region—culturally, politically, and economically—and frequently sent raiding parties to the Gulf Coast in Texas and deep into central Mexico. Because of these raids, Americans tended to view the Comanche “as the great scourges of the Mexican north.” (See Hämäläinen, Comanche Empire, chap. 5; and DeLay, War of a Thousand Deserts, 237.)

    Hämäläinen, Pekka. The Comanche Empire. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2008.

    DeLay, Brian. War of a Thousand Deserts: Indian Raids and the U.S.–Mexican War. Dallas: William P. Clements Center for Southwest Studies, Southern Methodist University; New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2008.

  2. [127]

    A few days later Brigham Young repeated similar comments at a public meeting in Nauvoo. “I will scarcely send a man out to preach,” he announced. “If the world wants preachers, let them come here, & if they do not want the Gospel, let them clean Carthage Jail.” (Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 16 Mar. 1845.)

    Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

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