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Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 3, 6 May 1845–13 January 1846

6 May 1845 • Tuesday, continued Page 1 10 May 1845 • Saturday Page 4 9 September 1845 • Tuesday Page 13 30 September 1845 • Tuesday Page 33 4 October 1845 • Saturday Page 42 11 January 1846 • Sunday Page 85 13 January 1846 • Tuesday Page 109

Source Note

See source note under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

Historical Introduction

See historical introduction under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

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The brethren can take letters of introduction from one priest to another. We want to take a list of all the houses for sale, and also a list of about how many will be to rent. We can rent the
Temple

Located in portion of Nauvoo known as the bluff. JS revelation dated Jan. 1841 commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction...

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to them. We shall also rent the Arsenal, the
Masonic Hall

Illinois lodge Grand Master Abraham Jonas granted dispensation to establish Nauvoo lodge, 15 Oct. 1841. First lodge meeting held, 29–30 Dec. 1841, in Hyrum Smith’s office. Installation ceremonies held, 15–16 Mar. 1842. Prior to eventual dedication of Masonic...

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and some other buildings with the
seventies Hall

Two-story brick building located at northeast corner of Parley and Bain streets on land donated by Edward and Ann Hunter. Construction began, fall 1843. At least one wall completed, by 16 Mar. 1844. Windstorm toppled wall, 16–17 Mar. 1844. Rebuilt under supervision...

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which we dont want to sell.
Coun.
C. C. Rich

21 Aug. 1809–17 Nov. 1883. Schoolteacher, farmer, cooper. Born in Campbell Co., Kentucky. Son of Joseph Rich and Nancy O’Neal. Moved to Posey Township, Dearborn Co., Indiana, ca. 1810. Moved to Tazewell Co., Illinois, 1829. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ...

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came in and stated that
Gen. [John J.] Hardin

6 Jan. 1810–23 Feb. 1847. Lawyer, politician, military officer. Born in Frankfort, Franklin Co., Kentucky. Son of Martin D. Hardin and Elizabeth Logan. Moved to Lawrenceburg, Franklin Co., by 1820. Married Sarah E. Smith, 13 Jan. 1831, in Mercer Co., Kentucky...

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and his troops had arrived in the
City

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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and were now on the square North East of the
Temple

Located in portion of Nauvoo known as the bluff. JS revelation dated Jan. 1841 commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction...

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waiting an interview with the Twelve and authorities of the place. He stated that
[Jacob B.] Backenstos

8 Oct. 1811–25 Sept. 1857. Merchant, sheriff, soldier, politician, land speculator. Born at Lower Paxton, Dauphin Co., Pennsylvania. Son of Jacob Backenstos and Margaretha Theis. Member of Lutheran Reformed Church. Married Sarah Lavina Lee, niece of Robert...

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and
Judge [Stephen A.] Douglas

23 Apr. 1813–3 June 1861. Lawyer, politician. Born at Brandon, Rutland Co., Vermont. Son of Stephen Arnold Douglass and Sarah Fisk. Moved to Ontario Co., New York, 1830. Moved to Jacksonville, Morgan Co., Illinois, 1833. Served as attorney general of Illinois...

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were at
Er Taylor

1 Nov. 1808–25 July 1887. Preacher, editor, publisher, politician. Born at Milnthorpe, Westmoreland, England. Son of James Taylor and Agnes Taylor, members of Church of England. Around age sixteen, joined Methodist church and was local preacher. Migrated ...

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s waiting for them and were anxious to see them as soon as possible.
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According to William Clayton, upon hearing Rich’s report, “the council was immediately adjourned and the Twelve with one or two others went over to Er Taylors.” Douglas indicated to them that Hardin had a writ “to search for some goods” that had reportedly been stolen by a Mormon from Appanoose, Illinois, and did not want to begin the search “untill he had first ascertained whether the authorities were willing.” Douglas also stated that “they did not intend going to the burned district”—likely a reference to the areas of southern Hancock County in which homes had been burned—“unless it was necessary to aid the officers if they had any writs, or if the citizens who had been burned out and wanted to fetch away their property and should be molested they would go down to protect them.” Douglas told the Mormons that “it was a hard matter to convince the people East of the Illinois River that it was the mob that were burning houses. They believed it was the Mormons burning the houses of the old citizens.” The council at John Taylor’s house was soon joined by others. According to Hosea Stout, captain of police, he was at the temple getting instructions from Charles C. Rich when “Backenstos & Judge Douglas [and] one of General Hardin’s aids rode up and was introduced by Backenstos and we all trooped off down to Elder Taylor’s and met in council with the 12. Douglas informed them that he was sent by his Genereal [Hardin] to notify them that he desired an interview with the Twelve to which they concented to grant at the p[a]rade ground,” where Hardin awaited with his troops. Stout then escorted Douglas to meet Hardin at the parade ground. (Clayton, Journal, 30 Sept 1845; Hosea Stout, Reminiscences and Journal, 30 Sept. 1845.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

Stout, Hosea. Reminiscences and Journals, 1845–1869. Microfilm. CHL. Originals at Utah State Historical Society, Salt Lake City. Also available as On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout, 1844–1861, edited by Juanita Brooks, 2 vols. (1964. Reprint, Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press; Salt Lake City: Utah State Historical Society, 1982).

Backenstos

8 Oct. 1811–25 Sept. 1857. Merchant, sheriff, soldier, politician, land speculator. Born at Lower Paxton, Dauphin Co., Pennsylvania. Son of Jacob Backenstos and Margaretha Theis. Member of Lutheran Reformed Church. Married Sarah Lavina Lee, niece of Robert...

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says all is right. The
chairman

1 June 1801–29 Aug. 1877. Carpenter, painter, glazier, colonizer. Born at Whitingham, Windham Co., Vermont. Son of John Young and Abigail (Nabby) Howe. Brought up in Methodist household; later joined Methodist church. Moved to Sherburne, Chenango Co., New...

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proposed to adjourn and meet them whereupon the council adjourned
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After meeting with Douglas as described in the preceding footnote, Young and others met with Hardin; according to Hosea Stout, Hardin “showed his authority for coming here and told his intentions of mentaining the ‘Supremacy of the Law.’” Clayton reported that Hardin, who was accompanied by “about 400 men,” indicated that the “stolen goods matter was settled” but that he now wanted to “search for the bodies of two men” (one named Wilcox and one named Debonair) who were missing and were believed to have been murdered in Nauvoo. Stout reported Hardin’s statement that “he intended to have an effectual and thoroug search made here for them that it was some what strange that a man should leave so large and populous a City as this and no body see him and in a scarcastic manner insinuated that we had been guilty of their death.” Hardin “then marched his troops and formed them in front of the Temple and sent four or five of his men to search the Temple through. Bishop Whitney escorted them. They found nothing there and then went down to the Masonic Hall to search.” Both Clayton and Stout believed that the search for bodies was a ruse. Clayton wrote, “There are strong reasons to suspect that Hardin means us no good. We suppose he will search for Bogus Machines [used in counterfeiting money] or any thing else but we dont suppose he has told his real designs. There is no doubt but he is a rank mobocrat as well as the troops who are with him.” For his part, Stout believed that Hardin and his troops hoped “to find our cannon &c as we had good reason to believe and deprive us of our means of defence and then we could be more easy brought to bow in submission [to] their unjust mandates.” The supposed search for bodies, Stout wrote, was “rediculous and contemptible.” (Clayton, Journal, 30 Sept. 1845; Hosea Stout, Reminiscences and Journal, 30 Sept. 1845.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

Stout, Hosea. Reminiscences and Journals, 1845–1869. Microfilm. CHL. Originals at Utah State Historical Society, Salt Lake City. Also available as On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout, 1844–1861, edited by Juanita Brooks, 2 vols. (1964. Reprint, Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press; Salt Lake City: Utah State Historical Society, 1982).

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  1. [68]

    According to William Clayton, upon hearing Rich’s report, “the council was immediately adjourned and the Twelve with one or two others went over to Er Taylors.” Douglas indicated to them that Hardin had a writ “to search for some goods” that had reportedly been stolen by a Mormon from Appanoose, Illinois, and did not want to begin the search “untill he had first ascertained whether the authorities were willing.” Douglas also stated that “they did not intend going to the burned district”—likely a reference to the areas of southern Hancock County in which homes had been burned—“unless it was necessary to aid the officers if they had any writs, or if the citizens who had been burned out and wanted to fetch away their property and should be molested they would go down to protect them.” Douglas told the Mormons that “it was a hard matter to convince the people East of the Illinois River that it was the mob that were burning houses. They believed it was the Mormons burning the houses of the old citizens.” The council at John Taylor’s house was soon joined by others. According to Hosea Stout, captain of police, he was at the temple getting instructions from Charles C. Rich when “Backenstos & Judge Douglas [and] one of General Hardin’s aids rode up and was introduced by Backenstos and we all trooped off down to Elder Taylor’s and met in council with the 12. Douglas informed them that he was sent by his Genereal [Hardin] to notify them that he desired an interview with the Twelve to which they concented to grant at the p[a]rade ground,” where Hardin awaited with his troops. Stout then escorted Douglas to meet Hardin at the parade ground. (Clayton, Journal, 30 Sept 1845; Hosea Stout, Reminiscences and Journal, 30 Sept. 1845.)

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

    Stout, Hosea. Reminiscences and Journals, 1845–1869. Microfilm. CHL. Originals at Utah State Historical Society, Salt Lake City. Also available as On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout, 1844–1861, edited by Juanita Brooks, 2 vols. (1964. Reprint, Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press; Salt Lake City: Utah State Historical Society, 1982).

  2. [69]

    After meeting with Douglas as described in the preceding footnote, Young and others met with Hardin; according to Hosea Stout, Hardin “showed his authority for coming here and told his intentions of mentaining the ‘Supremacy of the Law.’” Clayton reported that Hardin, who was accompanied by “about 400 men,” indicated that the “stolen goods matter was settled” but that he now wanted to “search for the bodies of two men” (one named Wilcox and one named Debonair) who were missing and were believed to have been murdered in Nauvoo. Stout reported Hardin’s statement that “he intended to have an effectual and thoroug search made here for them that it was some what strange that a man should leave so large and populous a City as this and no body see him and in a scarcastic manner insinuated that we had been guilty of their death.” Hardin “then marched his troops and formed them in front of the Temple and sent four or five of his men to search the Temple through. Bishop Whitney escorted them. They found nothing there and then went down to the Masonic Hall to search.” Both Clayton and Stout believed that the search for bodies was a ruse. Clayton wrote, “There are strong reasons to suspect that Hardin means us no good. We suppose he will search for Bogus Machines [used in counterfeiting money] or any thing else but we dont suppose he has told his real designs. There is no doubt but he is a rank mobocrat as well as the troops who are with him.” For his part, Stout believed that Hardin and his troops hoped “to find our cannon &c as we had good reason to believe and deprive us of our means of defence and then we could be more easy brought to bow in submission [to] their unjust mandates.” The supposed search for bodies, Stout wrote, was “rediculous and contemptible.” (Clayton, Journal, 30 Sept. 1845; Hosea Stout, Reminiscences and Journal, 30 Sept. 1845.)

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

    Stout, Hosea. Reminiscences and Journals, 1845–1869. Microfilm. CHL. Originals at Utah State Historical Society, Salt Lake City. Also available as On the Mormon Frontier: The Diary of Hosea Stout, 1844–1861, edited by Juanita Brooks, 2 vols. (1964. Reprint, Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press; Salt Lake City: Utah State Historical Society, 1982).

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