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Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April-circa 8 May 1843, Second Printed Draft

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Revised Minutes, and JS, Discourse,
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, [23 Apr.–ca. 8 May 1843]. Three fragments typeset [ca. 3 May 1843]; printed text with later redactions in the handwriting of
Thomas Bullock

23 Dec. 1816–10 Feb. 1885. Farmer, excise officer, secretary, clerk. Born in Leek, Staffordshire, England. Son of Thomas Bullock and Mary Hall. Married Henrietta Rushton, 25 June 1838. Moved to Ardee, Co. Louth, Ireland, Nov. 1839; to Isle of Anglesey, Aug...

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; three pages; first fragment in Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, CHL; second and third fragments in Historian’s Office, Joseph Smith History Draft Notes, CHL.

Historical Introduction

See Historical Introduction to Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 Apr.–ca. 8 May 1843.
Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by William Clayton *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by Willard Richards *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by James Burgess *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Published in Times and Seasons *Minutes and Discourses, 6–7 April 1843, as Reported by William Clayton *Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April–circa 8 May 1843

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TEXT: The second fragment of the second printed draft apparently directly follows the text pasted to page 10 of Willard Richards’s draft. The second and third fragments were later used in compiling JS’s history and include redactions by Thomas Bullock. Bullock may have used Richard’s draft in making his redactions; several of the changes match text from Richards’s draft. None of these later redactions are included in the transcript here.


The
Gov.

6 Oct. 1780–21 Sept. 1852. Lawyer, politician. Born at Bromley Bridge (later Burnt Mills), Somerset Co., New Jersey. Son of Rowland Chambers and Phoebe Mullican. Lived at Mason Co., Kentucky, 1794–1841. Married first Margaret Taylor, 16 June 1803, at Mason...

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of
Iowa

Area acquired by U.S. in Louisiana Purchase, 1803. First permanent white settlements established, ca. 1833. Organized as territory, 1838, containing all of present-day Iowa, much of present-day Minnesota, and parts of North and South Dakota. Population in...

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has granted a writ in the same manner that
[Thomas] Carlin

18 July 1789–14 Feb. 1852. Ferry owner, farmer, sheriff, politician. Born in Fayette Co., Kentucky. Son of Thomas Carlin and Elizabeth Evans. Baptist. Moved to what became Missouri, by 1803. Moved to Illinois Territory, by 1812. Served in War of 1812. Married...

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did, and it is now held in
Iowa

Area acquired by U.S. in Louisiana Purchase, 1803. First permanent white settlements established, ca. 1833. Organized as territory, 1838, containing all of present-day Iowa, much of present-day Minnesota, and parts of North and South Dakota. Population in...

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. I was told by the
U. S.

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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Attorney that the Gov. of
Iowa

Area acquired by U.S. in Louisiana Purchase, 1803. First permanent white settlements established, ca. 1833. Organized as territory, 1838, containing all of present-day Iowa, much of present-day Minnesota, and parts of North and South Dakota. Population in...

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had no jurisdiction after the decision of the supreme Court. Appeals have been made to
Mr.[John] Chambers

6 Oct. 1780–21 Sept. 1852. Lawyer, politician. Born at Bromley Bridge (later Burnt Mills), Somerset Co., New Jersey. Son of Rowland Chambers and Phoebe Mullican. Lived at Mason Co., Kentucky, 1794–1841. Married first Margaret Taylor, 16 June 1803, at Mason...

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, but although he has no plausible excuse, he is not willing to kill that writ or to take it back; I will, therefore advise you to serve them a trick that the devil never did, i e, come away and leave them—come into
Illinois

Became part of Northwest Territory of U.S., 1787. Admitted as state, 1818. Population in 1840 about 480,000. Population in 1845 about 660,000. Plentiful, inexpensive land attracted settlers from northern and southern states. Following expulsion from Missouri...

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, pay taxes in
Illinois

Became part of Northwest Territory of U.S., 1787. Admitted as state, 1818. Population in 1840 about 480,000. Population in 1845 about 660,000. Plentiful, inexpensive land attracted settlers from northern and southern states. Following expulsion from Missouri...

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, and let them take their own course. I dont care whether you come away or not. I do not wish to control you, but if you wish for my advise, I would say, let every man as soon as he conveniently can, come over here, for you can live in peace with us; we are all Green Mountain boys; Southerners, Northerners, Westerners, and every other kind of ers, and will treat you well.
In relation to
Keokuk

Located near confluence of Mississippi and Des Moines rivers. First settled, 1820. Fur trading post established, 1828. Named Keokuk, 1829, after Sac Indian chief, who later visited JS in Nauvoo, 1841. Platted 1837. Incorporated 1847. Population in 1841 about...

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, it has been supposed that I made a great bargain with a certain great man there. A person from them came to me in the beginning of August last, a stranger, and put on a very long face, and stated that he was in great distress; that he was a stranger in this place, and having understood that I was benevolent, he had come to me for help. He said that he was about to lose $1,400 of property for $300 in cash; that he had money in
Saint Louis

Located on west side of Mississippi River about fifteen miles south of confluence with Missouri River. Founded as fur-trading post by French settlers, 1764. Incorporated as town, 1809. First Mississippi steamboat docked by town, 1817. Incorporated as city...

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which he expected in two or three days; that the sale would take place the next day, and that he wanted to hire some money for two or three days. I thought of the subject over night, and he came the next morning for an answer. I then reflected upon the situation that I had frequently been placed in, and that I had often been a stranger in a strange land, and whenever I had called for assistance I had obtained it, and it may be that he is an honest man; and if I turn him away I shall be guilty of the sin of ingratitude. I therefore concluded to loan him $200, in good faith, sooner than be guilty of ingratitude. He gave me his note for the same, and said ‘whenever you call on me you shall have the money.’ Soon after, I was taken with a writ, and asked him for the money, but he answered, ‘I have not got it, but shall have it in a few days.’ He then said, ‘since I saw you, a project has entered my mind, which I think may be profitable both for you and me.’ ‘I propose deeding to you all the property which
[Isaac] Galland

15 May 1791–27 Sept. 1858. Merchant, postmaster, land speculator, doctor. Born at Somerset Co., Pennsylvania. Son of Matthew Galland and Hannah Fenno. Married first Nancy Harris, 22 Mar. 1811, in Madison Co., Ohio. Married second Margaret Knight, by 1816....

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deeded to you, which is twenty thousand acres, you paid
Galland

15 May 1791–27 Sept. 1858. Merchant, postmaster, land speculator, doctor. Born at Somerset Co., Pennsylvania. Son of Matthew Galland and Hannah Fenno. Married first Nancy Harris, 22 Mar. 1811, in Madison Co., Ohio. Married second Margaret Knight, by 1816....

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the notes and ought to have them, they are in my hands, and I will give them up.’ ‘I also propose deeding to you, one half of my right to all my land in the
Iowa Territory

Area acquired by U.S. in Louisiana Purchase, 1803. First permanent white settlements established, ca. 1833. Organized as territory, 1838, containing all of present-day Iowa, much of present-day Minnesota, and parts of North and South Dakota. Population in...

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, and all I ask is, for you to give your influence to help to build up
Keokuk

Located near confluence of Mississippi and Des Moines rivers. First settled, 1820. Fur trading post established, 1828. Named Keokuk, 1829, after Sac Indian chief, who later visited JS in Nauvoo, 1841. Platted 1837. Incorporated 1847. Population in 1841 about...

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.’ I answered, ‘I have not asked for your property, I dont want it, and would not give a snap of my finger for it, but I will receive the papers, and if I find it as you say, I will use my influence to build up the place; but I wont give you any thing for the land. I told him I wanted the $200; he went to make the papers, and he gave up the notes except a few. I then said to
uncle John [Smith]

16 July 1781–23 May 1854. Farmer. Born at Derryfield (later Manchester), Rockingham Co., New Hampshire. Son of Asael Smith and Mary Duty. Member of Congregational church. Appointed overseer of highways at Potsdam, St. Lawrence Co., New York, 1810. Married...

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, if you go there with the brethren, I will give you the property. I then let the same gentleman have some cloth. He began soon after to tell the brethren what obligations I was under to him. I then wrote him a letter on the subject, and I have since found that he is swindling, and that there is no prospect of getting any thing from him. He is owing about $1100. I thought it my duty to publish his rascality, that the
elders

A male leader in the church generally; an ecclesiastical and priesthood office or one holding that office; a proselytizing missionary. The Book of Mormon explained that elders ordained priests and teachers and administered “the flesh and blood of Christ unto...

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might do the same in that territory, and prevent the brethren from being imposed upon. He has got a writing to the effect, that if he did as he said, I would build the place, and on no other terms. His name is
J[acob] G. Remick

17 Mar. 1798–June 1860. Lawyer. Born in Tamworth, Strafford Co., New Hampshire. Son of William Remick and Abigail Gilman. Moved to Industry, Kennebec Co., Maine, 1805. Married Hannah Shaw, 3 Feb. 1824, in Industry. Moved to Bangor, Penobscot Co., Maine, by...

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. He took this plan to swindle me out of money, boards, &c. [p. [2]]
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    TEXT: The second fragment of the second printed draft apparently directly follows the text pasted to page 10 of Willard Richards’s draft. The second and third fragments were later used in compiling JS’s history and include redactions by Thomas Bullock. Bullock may have used Richard’s draft in making his redactions; several of the changes match text from Richards’s draft. None of these later redactions are included in the transcript here.

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