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Letter from Orson Hyde, 15 June 1841

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Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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, Letter,
London

City in southeast England; located on River Thames about sixty miles west of North Sea. Capital city of England. Population in 1841 about 2,000,000. London conference of British mission organized, 1841.

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, Middlesex and Surrey counties, England, to JS,
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 15 June 1841. Featured version published in “Letter from Elder O. Hyde,” in Times and Seasons, 1 Oct. 1841, vol. 2, no. 23, 551–555. For more complete source information, see the source note for Letter to Isaac Galland, 22 Mar. 1839.

Historical Introduction

On 15 June 1841,
Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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wrote a letter from
London

City in southeast England; located on River Thames about sixty miles west of North Sea. Capital city of England. Population in 1841 about 2,000,000. London conference of British mission organized, 1841.

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reporting on his mission to serve as an ambassador to the Jews abroad. Hyde sent the letter to JS in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, and intended it to be published in the Times and Seasons.
After proselytizing and raising funds throughout the eastern
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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for several months,
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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arrived in
Liverpool

Seaport, city, county borough, and market-town in northwestern England. Experienced exponential growth during nineteenth century. Population in 1830 about 120,000. Population in 1841 about 290,000. First Latter-day Saint missionaries to England arrived in...

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, England, on 3 March 1841.
1

Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840; Letter from Orson Hyde, 17 Apr. 1841.


The letter featured here was the second one Hyde sent to JS from Europe, and it detailed his efforts to meet with the leadership of the Jewish community in
London

City in southeast England; located on River Thames about sixty miles west of North Sea. Capital city of England. Population in 1841 about 2,000,000. London conference of British mission organized, 1841.

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and his authorship of materials describing the origins and tenets of the
church

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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. Also included in the letter were excerpts from a booklet Hyde wrote while in
England

Island nation consisting of southern portion of Great Britain and surrounding smaller islands. Bounded on north by Scotland and on west by Wales. Became province of Roman Empire, first century. Ruled by Romans, through 447. Ruled by Picts, Scots, and Saxons...

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. The booklet, patterned after
Orson Pratt

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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’s 1840 pamphlet A[n] Interesting Account of Several Remarkable Visions,
2

See Orson Pratt, A[n] Interesting Account of Several Remarkable Visions, 1840. Pratt’s and Hyde’s writings were the first published accounts of JS’s first vision of Deity and were among the earliest works to systematically outline church doctrine for foreign audiences.


explained the founding of the church. Hyde copied the excerpts into this letter for JS to review; he planned to have the booklet translated and published once he arrived in
Germany

Inhabited anciently by Teutonic peoples. Included in Holy Roman Empire. Became confederation of states, 1815. Between 1843 and 1856, population estimates range from about 30,000,000 to about 51,000,000. Orson Hyde traveled through Germany during his missionary...

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.
3

In an earlier letter to JS from Orson Hyde and John E. Page, the two missionaries mentioned a “great work to be done in Germany” and asked for permission to write and publish a book on the church to be spread throughout the German-speaking lands. JS responded to their request with “no objections whatever.” (Letter from Orson Hyde and John E. Page, 1 May 1840; Letter to Orson Hyde and John E. Page, 14 May 1840.)


Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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also reported on his attempts to fulfill his original mission assignment to seek information regarding the “views and movements of the Jewish people.”
4

Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840.


After calling on the chief rabbi of Great Britain,
Solomon Hirschell

1761–31 Oct. 1842. Rabbi. Born in London, England. Son of Rabbi Hirsch Levin Berliner. Moved with father to Halberstadt, Province of Saxony, Prussia (later in Germany), 1765. Married, ca. 1778. Became chief rabbi of Prenzlau, Province of Brandenburg, Prussia...

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, at the Great Synagogue of
London

City in southeast England; located on River Thames about sixty miles west of North Sea. Capital city of England. Population in 1841 about 2,000,000. London conference of British mission organized, 1841.

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, Hyde was informed that the rabbi had suffered injuries from a recent accident and was unable to grant him an audience. In response, Hyde penned a letter—which he copied into his letter to JS—informing Hirschell of his “divine appointment” to meet with the Jewish communities in several major world cities. There is no evidence that Hirschell responded to Hyde’s letter.
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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’s original letter to JS is apparently not extant. The letter was published in the 1 October 1841 issue of the Times and Seasons; that version is featured here. Although there is no known response from JS, Hyde continued his communications to JS with another letter a month later.
5

See Letter from Orson Hyde, 17 July 1841.


Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840; Letter from Orson Hyde, 17 Apr. 1841.

  2. [2]

    See Orson Pratt, A[n] Interesting Account of Several Remarkable Visions, 1840. Pratt’s and Hyde’s writings were the first published accounts of JS’s first vision of Deity and were among the earliest works to systematically outline church doctrine for foreign audiences.

  3. [3]

    In an earlier letter to JS from Orson Hyde and John E. Page, the two missionaries mentioned a “great work to be done in Germany” and asked for permission to write and publish a book on the church to be spread throughout the German-speaking lands. JS responded to their request with “no objections whatever.” (Letter from Orson Hyde and John E. Page, 1 May 1840; Letter to Orson Hyde and John E. Page, 14 May 1840.)

  4. [4]

    Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840.

  5. [5]

    See Letter from Orson Hyde, 17 July 1841.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Letter from Orson Hyde, 15 June 1841 History, 1838–1856, volume C-1 [2 November 1838–31 July 1842] “History of Joseph Smith”

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due time, thou shalt go to
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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, the land of thy fathers, and be a watchman unto the house of Israel; and by thy hands, shall the Most High do a good work, which shall prepare the way, and greatly facilitate the gathering together of that people.’
16

There is no extant copy of Hyde’s blessing from JS. In 1840, Hyde stated that the blessing was given “something near eight years ago,” suggesting that it occurred sometime around 1832. Hyde was in the eastern United States on a mission from 1 February through 22 December 1832, so if the blessing was given in 1832, it occurred in either January or late December. ([Rigdon], Appeal to the American People, 2nd ed., [iii]; Hyde, Journal, Feb.–Dec. 1832.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Hyde, Orson. Journal, Feb. 1832–Mar. 1833. CHL. MS 1386.

Many other particulars were told me by him, at that time, which I do not write in this letter: But sufficient is written to show that divine appointment is claimed as the main-spring that has sent me forth from the embraces of an affectionate family, and kind friends as well as from the land that gave me birth.”
“My labors since that period, have been bestowed upon the Gentiles In various countries, and on both sides of the Atlantic,
17

Hyde had served several proselytizing missions to the eastern United States, Canada, and England. (Revelation, 1 Nov. 1831–A [D&C 68:1]; “History of Orson Hyde,” 8–12, Historian’s Office, Histories of the Twelve, 1856–1858, 1861, CHL.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Historian’s Office. Histories of the Twelve, 1856–1858, 1861. CHL. CR 100 93.

until, in the early part of March 1840, I retired to my bed one night as usual; and while meditating, and contemplating the field of my future labors,
18

During the summer of 1838, the apostles were called to “go over the great waters” and preach the gospel. Hyde became disaffected from the church at that time and was “suspended from exercising the functions of [his] office” as apostle during a conference in May 1839. After accounting for his actions, Hyde was restored to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in October 1839. (Revelation, 8 July 1838–A [D&C 118:4]; Minutes, 4–5 May 1839; Minutes and Discourses, 5–7 Oct. 1839.)


the vision of the Lord, like clouds of light burst into my view. (See Joel, 2. 28) The cities of
London

City in southeast England; located on River Thames about sixty miles west of North Sea. Capital city of England. Population in 1841 about 2,000,000. London conference of British mission organized, 1841.

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,
Amsterdam

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, Constantinople, and
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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, all appeared in succession before me; and the spirit said unto me, ‘Here are many of the children of Abraham whom I will gather to the land that I gave to their fathers; and here also, is the field of your labors. Take therefore propper credentials from my people, your brethren, and also from the
Governor

18 July 1789–14 Feb. 1852. Ferry owner, farmer, sheriff, politician. Born in Fayette Co., Kentucky. Son of Thomas Carlin and Elizabeth Evans. Baptist. Moved to what became Missouri, by 1803. Moved to Illinois Territory, by 1812. Served in War of 1812. Married...

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of your
State

Became part of Northwest Territory of U.S., 1787. Admitted as state, 1818. Population in 1840 about 480,000. Population in 1845 about 660,000. Plentiful, inexpensive land attracted settlers from northern and southern states. Following expulsion from Missouri...

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with the seal of authority thereon,
19

Hyde was given a letter of recommendation from JS in April 1840 and another from Illinois governor Thomas Carlin later that same month. (Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840; Hyde, Voice from Jerusalem, v.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Hyde, Orson. A Voice from Jerusalem, or a Sketch of the Travels and Ministry of Elder Orson Hyde, Missionary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, to Germany, Constantinople, and Jerusalem. Liverpool: P. P. Pratt, 1842.

and go ye forth to the cities which have been shown you, and declare these words unto Judah, and say, ‘Blow ye the trumpet in the land; cry, gather together, and say, assemble yourselves and let us go into the defenced cities. Set up the standard towards Zion—retire stay not; for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction. The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way—he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate, and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.’
20

See Jeremiah 4:5–7; see also Book of Mormon, 1830 ed., 500 [3 Nephi 21:12].


“Speak ye comfortably to
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished—that her iniquity is pardoned for she hath received of the Lord’s hand double for all her sins.”
21

See Isaiah 40:2.


“Let your warning voice be heard among the Gentiles as you pass, and call ye upon them in my name for aid and for assistance. With you, it mattereth not whether it be little or much; but to me it belongeth to show favor unto them who show favor unto you.’
“The vision continued open about six hours, that I did not close my eyes in sleep. In this time, many things were shown unto me which I have never written, neither shall I write them until they are fulfilled in
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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.”
“It appears, from the prophets, that
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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has none to guide—none to take her by the hand among all the sons whom she hath brought forth and reared: ‘But these two sons are come unto thee! The sons of strangers shall build up thy walls.’
22

See Isaiah 51:18. Hyde had also published a letter in the Times and Seasons declaring that since Jerusalem “has no sons to take her by the hand . . . , Bro. [John E.] Page and myself feel that we ought to hurry along and take her by the hand; for we are her sons but the Gentiles have brought us up.” (Orson Hyde, Letter Extract, Franklin, OH, 7 July 1840, in Times and Seasons, Aug. 1840, 1:156–157.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

“Permit me now Rev. Sir, to trouble you with the reflections of a mind that feels completely untrameled from every party interest, and from every sectarian influence. When I look at the condition of your fathers in the days of David and Solomon, and contrast that with the present condition of their descendants, I am led to exclaim, ‘How are the mighty fallen!’
23

See 2 Samuel 1:27.


Then they possessed a kingdom—a land flowing with milk and honey—then the strong arm of Jehovah taught the surrounding nations to pay tribute and homage to them—then their standard was raised high, their banner floated on every breeze; and under its shade, the sons and daughters of Israel reposed in perfect safety; and the golden letters of light and knowledge were inscribed on its folds. But now, no kingdom—no country—no tribute of gain or honor—no standard—no security: Their sceptre has departed! and instead of that light and knowledge which once gave them a transcendant elevation above other nations, the height of their ambition, is now, (with some honorable exceptions) the accumulation of sordid gain, by buying and selling the stale refuse with which their fathers would never have defiled their hands,”
24

Hyde’s language here echoed pervasive stereotypes of Jews and their love of money. After his visit to Jerusalem, Hyde believed he recognized a divide between devout Jews and the “many Jews who care nothing about Jerusalem, and have no regard for God. Their money is all the god they worship.” (Hyde, Voice from Jerusalem, 15.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Hyde, Orson. A Voice from Jerusalem, or a Sketch of the Travels and Ministry of Elder Orson Hyde, Missionary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, to Germany, Constantinople, and Jerusalem. Liverpool: P. P. Pratt, 1842.

“Why this wonderful change? Is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a just God? Most certainly he is. If, then, he is a just God, of course, he will mete out and apportion the chastisement or peanlty [penalty], to the magnitude of the offence or crime committed. Allowing, then, the law of Moses to be the standard by which actions are weighed: Were not idolatry and the shedding of innocent blood, the greatest sins which your fathers committed? and was not the penalty inflicted upon them for that transgression, captivity in Babylon seventy years? Have [p. 553]
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Footnotes

  1. [16]

    There is no extant copy of Hyde’s blessing from JS. In 1840, Hyde stated that the blessing was given “something near eight years ago,” suggesting that it occurred sometime around 1832. Hyde was in the eastern United States on a mission from 1 February through 22 December 1832, so if the blessing was given in 1832, it occurred in either January or late December. ([Rigdon], Appeal to the American People, 2nd ed., [iii]; Hyde, Journal, Feb.–Dec. 1832.)

    Hyde, Orson. Journal, Feb. 1832–Mar. 1833. CHL. MS 1386.

  2. [17]

    Hyde had served several proselytizing missions to the eastern United States, Canada, and England. (Revelation, 1 Nov. 1831–A [D&C 68:1]; “History of Orson Hyde,” 8–12, Historian’s Office, Histories of the Twelve, 1856–1858, 1861, CHL.)

    Historian’s Office. Histories of the Twelve, 1856–1858, 1861. CHL. CR 100 93.

  3. [18]

    During the summer of 1838, the apostles were called to “go over the great waters” and preach the gospel. Hyde became disaffected from the church at that time and was “suspended from exercising the functions of [his] office” as apostle during a conference in May 1839. After accounting for his actions, Hyde was restored to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in October 1839. (Revelation, 8 July 1838–A [D&C 118:4]; Minutes, 4–5 May 1839; Minutes and Discourses, 5–7 Oct. 1839.)

  4. [19]

    Hyde was given a letter of recommendation from JS in April 1840 and another from Illinois governor Thomas Carlin later that same month. (Recommendation for Orson Hyde, 6 Apr. 1840; Hyde, Voice from Jerusalem, v.)

    Hyde, Orson. A Voice from Jerusalem, or a Sketch of the Travels and Ministry of Elder Orson Hyde, Missionary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, to Germany, Constantinople, and Jerusalem. Liverpool: P. P. Pratt, 1842.

  5. [20]

    See Jeremiah 4:5–7; see also Book of Mormon, 1830 ed., 500 [3 Nephi 21:12].

  6. [21]

    See Isaiah 40:2.

  7. [22]

    See Isaiah 51:18. Hyde had also published a letter in the Times and Seasons declaring that since Jerusalem “has no sons to take her by the hand . . . , Bro. [John E.] Page and myself feel that we ought to hurry along and take her by the hand; for we are her sons but the Gentiles have brought us up.” (Orson Hyde, Letter Extract, Franklin, OH, 7 July 1840, in Times and Seasons, Aug. 1840, 1:156–157.)

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

  8. [23]

    See 2 Samuel 1:27.

  9. [24]

    Hyde’s language here echoed pervasive stereotypes of Jews and their love of money. After his visit to Jerusalem, Hyde believed he recognized a divide between devout Jews and the “many Jews who care nothing about Jerusalem, and have no regard for God. Their money is all the god they worship.” (Hyde, Voice from Jerusalem, 15.)

    Hyde, Orson. A Voice from Jerusalem, or a Sketch of the Travels and Ministry of Elder Orson Hyde, Missionary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, to Germany, Constantinople, and Jerusalem. Liverpool: P. P. Pratt, 1842.

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